Where Jordan Hall Goes Wrong

By Leo Gura - March 25, 2025

I spent hours combing through Jordan Hall’s interviews and talks to pin point exactly where his view is seriously mistaken. If you’re not aware, he recently converted to Christianity and likes to make a very sophisticated articulation of a more evolved and mature form of Christianity. The idea being that the old Christian religion was just a big misunderstanding, and if you just do Christianity in the proper way, that will solve all of those problems. No. No it won’t.

I respect Jordan’s mind and intelligence very much, however, even his formulation of Christianity is still a very sophisticated and elaborate self-deception. He’s so sophisticated and intelligent that it took me a long time to pin point the fatal error. But here it is distilled to a few sound bites:

Skip to timestamp 1:16:30 and watch till 1:18:30.

So, here’s the problem with that:

  • Jordan is looking for a human role-model to emulate to reach the highest truth, love, and goodness.
  • Christianity appeals to Jordan for this very reason, because it offers him such a role-model in Christ.
  • Christianity is a mind virus that convinces humans that they can access God through worship and emulation of Christ, a human avatar.
  • Jordan says, “I can’t really emulate a transcendent spirit”. The truth is: You don’t need to. You are God.
  • Jordan says, “You can’t draw a picture of that which is not incarnate.” The truth is: You are the incarnation of God. Look in the mirror. There is your picture.
  • Jordan says, “I can’t come into a full and deep relationship with the father because I can’t even perceive the father. I can’t even imagine that. But with the son I can. So the son provides the interface that allows me to come into that level of full relationality, which is the path that orients me towards the father, which is the deepest principles of Truth, Good, Beauty.” The truth is: Jordan is the father. Drop the Christian fantasy and Wake up to God. There is no interface to God. You are it. You don’t need to imagine or perceive the father, you just need to realize that your perception IS the father.
  • Jordan’s mindset cannot lead to God-Realization because it otherizes God too much. God is taken as not oneself, which is the fundamental error of Christianity. You do not reach God through emulation of Christ, you reach God by realizing what God actually is, which is your own Mind re-collecting its absolute sovereignty.
  • God is not something you emulate your way towards through good deeds, good community, good relationships, humility, etc. None of that will grant you consciousness of yourself. As long as you try to be Christ-like, you will not be God. You must realize that Christ is just a projection and construction of your Mind. This is exactly what Christianity will not allow you to do.
  • Jordan ends by saying, “The religion which is not a religion after all.” This is a profound error. Jordan’s Christianity is still a religion, and suffers from the same problems as all religion does: human group-think. It is a human invention and self-deception, no matter how intelligent or how advanced and special you try to make it sound or how many mystical experiences you have. God has still not been realized.
  • I am far from some Christ-like figure. But I do understand who understands God and who does not. Because I never got side-tracked chasing moral righteousness. Just Truth.
  • You don’t need to be Christ. You only need to realize you are God.

The point of this post is not to attack Jordan, it’s to point out just how deep and sophisticated self-deception gets. These “meta-crisis”, Game-B people do a lot of fancy talk, use a lot of fancy words, but in the end they will not realize God. Because even they, for all their elaborate jargon, do not have a serious enough understanding of epistemology, ontology, and Consciousness. So just beware, these are waters in which even the most advanced humans drown.

I hope you learn from this example, or you will end up like Jordan Hall. Lots of talk, lots of human relationship, lots of brilliant dialogos, but no ultimate understanding of God.

Once again, if you side with the human over the non-human, you will end up damned. The human is evil. The non-human is Good. You’re siding with the wrong side!

I don’t know how to make this any more clear or rigorous for you. I hope you get it. The entire Christian community is self-deception.

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