How Socialization Makes You Stupid
By Leo Gura - September 14, 2022 | 9 Comments
The problems with conformity and group-think
Max Gron says: I don’t know who this video’s talking about, probably conformists, do you think I’m a conformist? P’lease! I don’t take conformity as a belief, any philosophy of it is bullshit, most people think in terms of God and religion, that doesn’t mean I’m conforming, I tend to do certain things wrong, I admit when I’m wrong, the problem is people don’t admit it to themselves. As for conformity I’m up for non-conformity, why shouldn’t I change?
Max Gron says: Being wise and loving, intelligent, yeh, that makes sense. I think Donald Trump’s intelligent, he has loving intentions, he’s not the one hating, but you’re not going to get intelligence with your argument, you’re going to start wars, somebody might hurt you making up your own brain, yes it’s going to work, everything is relative. It’s only too true that intelligent means you understand. My intelligence was never the dumb one, it was always sageness and began with love until people drove me to hate. Everyone puts me down and makes me feel stupid. I mix this intelligence with knowledge, and it’s not stupid things like learning I want, I wanted to already know.
Newton says: So I was listening to this podcast on spotify, and it made me scared to go socialise now… This is the problem with listening to Leo’s stuff cause it makes you scared. I’m just thinking to what extent am I being submitted to “group think”? I feel like I have a tendency to push my ideologies and workaholic attitude onto others more then they influence me. But as of now, I basically have no friends, cause I just stopped going out with them to focus on my studies, then eventually they know I’ll say no, so they stop asking and yata yata, same old same old cycle. But I’m always on the phone with one dude I know from high school, we banter alot it fun, but the guy is passive and lacking achievement in his life… This is the opposite of what I could ever want… so the philosophical question of the day is… Will interactions have an marginal effect on an individual’s ability to push forward, work hard and achievement the dreams he’s dreamt of? Will it sap his motvations and high standards? I think the answer is, it depends on the individual. It that person a people pleaser archetype? Is he a rebilious type, does not care what other people think, takes things with a grain of salt, but he lives on his own terms. I hope that is me, I’ve always be a social outcast for speaking my mind too freely. I feel like I’m unaffected by my interactions with others in terms of a macro habits and achievement standpoint, but you’re right Leo. It’ll sum up, so best cut them off and stick to hanging with the high achievers, smart kids, muscular gym bros, rich wealthy entrepreneur types or potentials… And when interacting with normies etc just do your social calibration tings, be chill, and see what value they can offer contextually – ie getting sex from women… or brief social cohesion to gain social proof to ultimately get pussy… all links back to pussy lol. but nah, yea idk this shit made me think if I should commit to the lonerism, they could also be potential clients too… like if your selling stuff to them… so does effect?
Max Gron says: I think socialisation, and stupid things like sex, success and dating, is the stupidest, lowest consciousness ways to live, just being a useless waste of human space occupying places omnipresently, instead of getting to the core, thinking as you want us to, that’s both of you, the comment and the video, I think it’s worth looking into if you want smartness of a 1990s modern urbanite sage, it’s simple, so simple you have a bunch of rules for how it’s done, not easy.
Ammar Shahid says: Everything is perspective. You don’t need to isolate yourself from people to be alone. Being alone is the true nature of your self since you cannot experience reality outside the self. The True World can only be found within, in the present moment.
Criticizing the argument against socializing would be self bias of your ego’s survival mechanism to need other people. People have helped you all your life but have you ever considered why? The answer is survival. All the ego mind is doind is surviving. Both individually and collectively. I love Leo’s teachings and I now understand so much more about life than before. Please, do not take your life for granted and follow your dreams.
Max Gron says: Done and done. I don’t know what I was criticising, to be honest it’s the absence of socialising to which, I should invent my own beliefs, I’m not without the results, I self-reflected, introspected and took 5-minute visualisations, works a charm, but it’s a lot of difficult work.
stephanie says: I stopped questioning WHY I don’t like to socialize. Questioning this alone is the beginning of the manipulation.
Ammar Shahid says: The only reason I avoid socializing is because people are psychologically so unconscious that they don’t know Truth. Yet, everyone is very confident and dogmatic about various systems we humans have constructed ourselves. This includes our own and collective egos. You are mechanically run by ego all your life but you unconsciously choose to remain ignorant of most of it. You don’t know what you don’t know. How much do we really understand about reality. Nobody talks about th deep questions anymore. All people do is survive this precious thing called the ego and then perish for eternity or reincarnate.
Max Raoy Gron says: It’s too introspective, kind of illogical, what Leo’s teaching, anti-intellectual things like sitting there next to a wasp instead of walking away, am I to pretend religion is a sane belief not believed by idiots? Yes, idiots believe in religion, but idiocy is a sin, people with learning difficulties don’t understand religion as much as sane people, with religion, people think I’m crazy, yes, nonsense is the intention, no, religion’s not fucking sensible, it’s clever only in making people want to follow it, created by crackpots who are eccentric to the point of ridicule, it’s not a normal, material belief, religion is individualistic. If we saw people following everything in Old Testament Bible, even making tents from baby seals, we would think they’re loony. Seriously, it’s nonsense, the cute phrasing in the Bible “don’t be deceived” is a lie, the person not realising God is made up is deceived, the truth is somebody made it up as a God of indiscriminate love, even loving evil, sounds made up to me, hopefully I can learn something from the no-socialisation video and find the truth behind closed doors, read between the lines, there might be some out-there material ordinary people don’t accept.